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Thursday, June 15, 2006
Nat has several regular features on her blog that involve posting songs, which I think is great idea. I'm always up for learning something new in the musical realm. In fact, for the second time, I think she has an idea so good, it's worth stealing.
There is one major difference, though. While she is posting actual releases that you can go out and buy, we Trolls prefer the underground, or unofficial releases.
Okay, Joe, why don't you just come right out and call them BOOTLEGS? I don't because that wouldn't be quite accurate. You see, an unofficial recording becomes a bootleg when it is packaged and sold. The term really doesn't apply when it is traded or given freely. There is a vast network of music fans worldwide who do just that. They support the musicians as well, but like the underground stuff because, let's face it, concerts are what seperate MUSICIANS from MUSIC PERSONALITIES. A good band or performer will always have those spontaneous surprises when performing in the moment. Those are what I live for.
"So they must be bought before they can be traded, don't they????" Sometimes, someone in the community will buy a "bootleg" that is unavailable by other means, and "liberate" it, meaning that they distribute it for free, thus ruining the bootlegger's market. Usually, though, the original recorder is someone from within the community who will trade it for another recording that he wants, or simply distribute it for free. This usually helps the artists, who get people listening to their music when they might not have heard it otherwise, due to lack of radio play or record company promotion. Most artists don't oppose this as long as nothing that is officially released gets traded. Few acts want to take Metallica's tack, which was to wage legal war on their own fans.
So to start this feature off, I'm posting a cut from the band that pretty much created this scene in the first place....The Grateful Dead. It was certainly their music that got me started on this hobby about 21 odd years ago. It's from one of the first unnofficial tapes I ever got (and still have!) from the guy who got me into the Dead in the first place!! ( I wonder what happened to him. I think his name was Tom or Jim or something. Probably overdosed, found religion, or something equally tragic.)
What you will hear here is the second set opener from the Greek Theater in Berkeley, Ca. on May 22, 1982. The songs are called "China Cat Sunflower" and "I Know You Rider", with a musical bridge between them. We Deadsters have heard the boys do this thousands of times, but seldom did they do it this well. I hope you all enjoy it.
To those not into the Dead, don't worry. This feature will have a bit of variety, bound only by my tastes (which are educated) and my collection (which is excellent).
As a bonus, I found some pictures from this concert and the next night.
And here's the Grateful Dead on 5-22-82.
Next week: One of Pink Floyd's finest live moments. Ever.
Posted at 10:46 pm by Joe_the_Troll
 | | | nat
June 16, 2006 01:19 PM PDT
Ohhh, HOW COOL! Thanks for the mention.
I'm going to listen to this Dead tune now!! THANKS! | |
| | | ruth
June 16, 2006 10:26 PM PDT
You may like to check out this site about copyright Joe. http://www.pro-music.org/copyright/faq.htm#d
It's still stealing even if it is not for profit. I'm just saying - my kids do it so I'm not being holier-than-thou or anything.
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| | | Joe the Troll
June 17, 2006 12:07 AM PDT
Ruth-
I read that, and it is correct, as far as it goes. Note, however, that it refers to Napster, which was distributing cuts from released CDs. Therein lies the difference. They were distributing freely something that someone else is trying to sell. In the act of marketing that music, the record companies and artists asserted their copyright.
What the community does is distribute freely what the artists and record companies are NOT trying to sell. If that changes, as in the case of a live album being released, then the rules for distribution change as well. There are always those who feel that rules are for suckers, but the community as a whole is fairly conscientious.
Artists can also assert their copyright in advance with an announcement that a release of a particular concert is planned, or simply by making a public statement that they disapprove of trading and do not allow it. Many do. Others, like the Allman Brothers or Hot Tuna, have the official policy that they don't allow electronic trading (like Bit Torrent) but don't mind person to person trades. Little Feat actually has a link on their website to a BT trading site. The Grateful Dead not only allowed taping, they actually facilitated it.
Not only do most bands see the wisdom of getting a little free exposure through the underground (they sure as hell can't count on FM anymore), but they also don't see the wisdom of arguing in court that someone who didn't ask for any money was stealing from them something that they weren't trying to make money on.
I hope that makes the distinction clear. This really IS a horse of a different color.
So what do you gals think of the MUSIC?
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| | | Mark
June 17, 2006 09:26 AM PDT
Pales in comparison to any number of CC/IKYR's from the Keith years. His keyboard playing was far better than Mydland's any day of the week. just my humble opinion.
Plus I think Jerry's playing is a little stilted. It doesn't have the smooth flow that the Euroope '72 playing had, forex. | |
| | | Joe the Troll
June 17, 2006 10:46 AM PDT
I'll take the high energy of the early 80's over the short versions played in 72 anyday. Besides, the point of this was to pay tribute to the stuff that got me started collecting in the first place.
I'm surprised. I expected a more positive response to this new feature. I had plans for the next few weeks, but maybe I'll just let it drop here. | |
| | | O' Tim
June 17, 2006 11:48 AM PDT
I'll give you (and the guy who got you started on the Dead) the thumbs up, Joe!
The Europe '72 China>Rider was what really turned me on to the band, what with the trippy meltdown from psychedelic to traditional bluegrass.
This Greek show was about six months after my first show, and a little more than two months before my second at the beloved Alpine Valley. Jerry was still kind thin and his voice was hanging in there.
Mark - did you ever see Mydland live? I never got to see Keith, but there's one thing Brent had that he didn't - a Hammond B-3 organ, baby! My God he could make that thing whirrrrrl !! | |
| | | Mark
June 17, 2006 02:22 PM PDT
"I expected a more positive response to this new feature. I had plans for the next few weeks, but maybe I'll just let it drop here."
FFS, Joe, nobody said the feature sucked. I merely expressed my opinion about Mydland vs. Godchaux. One man's bread is another man's poison. It's a good feature. It's POSITIVE blogging.
O'Tim - Yes - once. I saw Keith quite aa few times by comparison. I alwaays preferred the Dead with piano as opposed to organ, but I have grown to appreciate just about all their music since Jerry died. | |
| | | nat
June 19, 2006 12:51 PM PDT
No, don't drop it, silly Troll! It's cool! | |
| | | panthergirl
June 21, 2006 07:49 AM PDT
Any friend of Nat's is a friend of mine!! I'm not a deadhead, but I do love me some Pink Floyd...
Thanks for stopping by! | |
| | | Joe the Troll
June 21, 2006 01:50 PM PDT
Panthergirl- Same to you! I've got a beauty of a Floyd cut from 1971 coming up.... I hope you'll enjoy it. | |
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