The common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

-George Washington-



Tuesday, March 07, 2006
Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk

My opinion regarding freedom of speech usually does not waver. I consider myself to be 100% dead-set for it. I even consider it a responsibility for every American to tolerate speech that they disapprove of, countering it with their own free expressions, rather than trying to legally stifle the ones who caused the "offense". I am tested, however, on occasion. I have never been more tested than I was this morning.

Oddly enough, this isn't about Ann Coulter OR NAMBLA, usually two of the better reasons to think twice about free speech. This is about the Reverend Fred Phelps, my Asshole of the Year for 2006. I know, we're barely into March, but I have a busload of faith in this guy. I'm sure you will, too, if you look at this.

This fine and oh-so- Christian fellow and his congregation at the Westboro Baptist Church (which consists mostly of his relatives) believe that America has turned it's back on God by harboring homosexuals. By "harboring" he of course means not arresting and executing them, as he feels God would prefer. This is the God of the Old Testament, all vengeance and flaming sword, although the sword he uses now consists of  improvised bombs, and He's using them to slay the soldiers that defend this haven of queers, this modern Gomorrah. This isn't a war, it is righteous vengeance, claims the Reverend and his band of merry nutjobs. So they've taken to holding protests at the funerals of our soldiers who died in action.

These aren't quiet protests. The, ummmm, "flock" will get as close as possible and scream to the bereaved that their loved one was slain by God for defending "fags" and are burning in Hell for crossing God's will. That, I gather, is one of the nicer things they scream, as no news agency I found was willing to quote anything else they chanted, although most pointed out that it is always rude. One report used the word "profane". The church claims that they are "proud to preach God's hate." They hold signs that say "Thank God for Dead Soldiers", "Thank God for IEDs" (Improvised Explosive Devices) and of course, "God Hates Fags."

Think that's weird? Go to their site and see how they tied the tsunami to God's fury toward Sweden. No answer yet on whether they run a day care.


Some states have countered them by passing laws that keep protests hundreds of feet away from the mourners. As far as limits to free speech, that one is tolerable, expecially when it involves a church that is being tracked as a hate group.

It turns out that something better happened. Enter the Patriot Guard Riders , a group of motorcyclists that go to the funerals to counter the protests.They stand between mourners and the Assholes of the Year, waving flags and saying supportive and patriotic things, making sure that Phelps and his ilk aren't heard. Sometimes they even use their Harleys to drown them out. They only go where they are invited, because of this thing they have called "respect", but people know when to invite them since Phelps lists his itinerary on his website. These guys are using responsible freedom of speech to counter irresponsible, perhaps even evil, use of the same freedom. They show that the freedom CAN be absolute, unless people become afraid to speak out, or afraid of allowing others to.

So there you have it. The church folks are the Anti-American bad guys, the bikers are the Patriotic Good Guys. Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper could not be reached for comment. Or at least, I assumed they couldn't.

I'm going to make a sign of my own now. It will say "Thank God for Outlaw Bikers".

 

Posted at 06:50 pm by Joe_the_Troll

O\' Tim
March 8, 2006   09:44 PM PST
 
Phelps is on par for my nomination of him as Asshole of the Decade. His ilk started with their "protests" at the funerals of AIDS victims (regardless of sexual orientation). I guess that just wasn't ludicrous enough, so they've upgraded to harrassing grieving military families. It is baffling to see people with such ignorant hatred that they obviously think is righteous.
Joe the Troll
March 8, 2006   10:13 PM PST
 
O'Tim...

They went after the coal miners, too. Don't ask me how THAT makes sense.
Karen of the Desert
March 14, 2006   02:26 PM PST
 
These folks are a fine example of humanity... the dark side, that is. These are Christians?!? Since when does God "hate"? I thought God was "love." Yeah, God supposedly gets "angry," but the Chrisitan God of which I was taught doesn't hate.

Where is the line between free speech and harrassment? I'm in agreement with Joe on my tolerance of free speech... and in agreement that these folks test my patience.

I don't understand how this is not considered harrassment. Anyone able to assist here?

When I was just a wee thing... being taught of my freedom of speech... I seem to remember the famous "don't yell 'fire' in a crowded theatre when there isn't one just because of 'free speech'" line.

Their free speech stunt trumps a family's liberty to bury their loved one and mourn in peace? Where is the respect here? Oh yeah... that's what's missing.

Not sure how I feel about states setting laws restricting protesting... things like that can / will be applied in ways unintended and usually with detriment to the average citizen.

I would prefer laws passed against harrassment... we all have our Constitutional rights to Life, Liberty, and Persuit of Happiness... and we're not supposed to get in each other's way. When we do, that's when we need to pass laws to prevent it.

For now... thank you Patriot Guard Riders in doing your part to protect the families from this harrassment.

Joe the Troll
March 14, 2006   05:05 PM PST
 
Karen said.....

Not sure how I feel about states setting laws restricting protesting... things like that can / will be applied in ways unintended and usually with detriment to the average citizen.


Joe the Troll sez.....

I beleive the 500 foot restriction applies only to funerals. I chafed me a little, too, but it's hard to come up with a good reason for ANY protest to be at a funeral. Maybe if you're protesting people having funerals at all, but that's even weirder than what Phelps & Co. are doing.

I'm glad you saw my note, Karen! It's a deligt to see you here, and I hope to be delighted a lot!
Karen of the Desert
March 16, 2006   12:05 PM PST
 
Joe wrote: "but it's hard to come up with a good reason for ANY protest to be at a funeral. Maybe if you're protesting people having funerals at all, but that's even weirder than what Phelps & Co. are doing."

I agree. I cannot come up with one.

Joe the Troll
January 8, 2007   07:08 PM PST
 
Joe. thank you for pointing out this post to me and I agree 100%. Phelps and crew got a permit to protest the funeral I attended (not sure how) but they went to the wrong church. Serves them right. There was a last minute church change because of the amount to people that were attending. (All of the local and state big wigs were in attendance.) Maybe it was divine intervention but with 180+ bikes and 10 cages... they would not have been heard anyways.

Hugssssssss
 

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