The common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

-George Washington-



Thursday, October 25, 2007
American Asshole : Lucien Hoffman of Bend, Or.




Unlike previously, there was little concensus about this month's asshole. We had a pretty good crop, and votes were all over the place. In fact, while it may be too amazing to be true, I think Bill O'Reilly was the only one NOT to get a vote, and let's face it, Bill's an asshole. He was not September's American Asshole, however. With a majority of four votes, the September crown goes to Lucien Hoffman for being asshole enough to leave his 2 year old daughter in the car while he attended a "function" at a Nevada brothel. It was 95 degree that day. Yep, he's a bungster, all right.

He's such an asshole, as you can see by following the link, that Fox News wrote an entire story about him that doesn't blame Bill Clinton for anything. You have to be an asshole to distract them that much.



Evidently, he was there at the brothel to celebrate his team's victory in a rugby tornament. That's right, he drove from Bend to Nevada to play rugby. The president of the rugby club Hoffman belongs to had this to say;

 "We know Luke to be a good father," he said. "He's not a neglectful person or an irresponsible parent. It's unfortunate that he made the decision that he did to put her in the car, but I'm sure the decision wasn't arrived at in a neglectful manner or that he was intentionally being neglectful."

- thus proving that there is never a lack of people willing to go to bat for an obvious asshole.

And this guy brings up a very good point - how many good dads are fighting in vain for shared custody of their kids, while some asshole that has that acts like this? Guys like this make it much more difficult for the good dads, just by sharing the same gender.

Congrats, Lucien. You've hit the big time. You are September's ASSHOLE OF THE MONTH.

Won't your little girl be proud?

Posted at 07:41 am by Joe_the_Troll
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Tuesday, October 23, 2007
I feel SO much safer now.


You have to see this to believe it. Yes, it is real.

I'm sure glad we have professionals on the job.




Posted at 08:42 pm by Joe_the_Troll
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Saturday, October 20, 2007
A Trivial Diversion



Well, I guess no one gives a rat's ass about an old man lying in the hospital in serious condition, so let's play a game!!!!!



Posted at 07:59 am by Joe_the_Troll
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Friday, October 19, 2007
Porter Wagoner Update

 

Remember Porter Wagoner, the old-time country star who recently made a comeback? It was just a couple months ago that we were talking about his comeback and the show he did with the White Stripes.

Well, he's in the news again, and it's not good. He's in the hospital. His ailment is unspecified, but it seems he's in bad shape. He's asking for your hopes and prayers. If you're a hoper or a prayer, spare the old sod a little of your time, eh? He seemed pretty popular in my previous post - in fact, he set a Trolling the Underground comment record that will be difficult to beat!

Best wishes, PW, for a speedy and complete recovery. Let's make this historic comeback last!

 

Posted at 11:51 am by Joe_the_Troll
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Wednesday, October 17, 2007
There's a Jew in my Soup.


If you've been looking at this thread and that thread, you know that Jews is News. Well, this started as a response to a question there, posed by Daniel. It was:

One of the problems is with the meaning of the word 'assimilation'. Just because a group of people live in a community in some country doesn't mean they are necessarily assimilated.

As with the Bretheren, they live and work in places all over the world but they do not believe they are part of their society. They believe that God will appear and lift them and them alone to heaven without dying (The Rapture). They marry each other and are very secretive.

People of most religious persuasions (including Jews who call themselves the Children of God) have similar fantasies about their special place in the world even if they don't often spell them out.

If people believe such discriminatory, superior things how can you then call them 'assimilated'?


Well, here's how I see it.

They shop at the same malls we do, and buy the same clothes. They eat the same way-too-salty pretzels. They go to the same post office, and we see them at the same Chinese restaurants. They sit next to us at blues concerts. They see the same movies in the same theaters and laugh at the same jokes.

They pay taxes with us, and walk their Jewish dogs in the same parks our Episcopal pooches soil. We flip each other the bird on the freeway, but it's nothing personal. They're our bosses, our employees, the guy in the next cubicle, the guy next door. Our kids go to the same school. They have the same teacher. My kid's going to be a carrot in the school play, the Shapiro kid's a kishke. Maybe he'll be the one who takes her to the prom.

They're our doctors, our lawyers, our cops, our judges. They're our business contacts, our suppliers, our customers. They're the faces on our TVs, and the faces behind the faces behind the faces. They make movies just like that Catholic guy does. They look at us from CD labels and magazine covers. They're next to us in line while we look at those magazine covers.

They're our in-laws and our friends. They get their TV shows pre-empted for a 7-hour screening of It's a Wonderful Life once a year just like the rest of us. They're the people we hang out with. They're the people we fight with. Our pals. Our enemies. They teach in our schools and clean our carpets and fix our cars and stock our shelves and do everything that we do in the same places at the same times for the same reasons in the same ways.

And for some reason, they're still the only ones that can make a really good ham sandwich. Why is that?

Is there bigotry? Of course. But while some people may be quite vocal about it, most folks aren't that militant about religion. That's what pisses off the loud folks so much. Despite haughty claims to the contrary, and despite what people mark in the "religion" box of the census, we have pretty secular attitudes for all practical purposes. More so in urban areas, but we just don't go around worrying if the people we meet in our daily lives have the same religion as us. Those people exist, but are an ever increasing minority.

That is how we can consider them assimilated. I stand by that word. They're in our everyday lives, and we're in theirs. We're all Americans.

We're all us.

Posted at 07:13 pm by Joe_the_Troll
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Poll Dancing

Well, it looks like the poll on the hysterectomy issue has petered out. It was a very good turnout - the best ever, in fact. At this rate I could be out of small sample statistics by 2009. Here's the scoop:

 

Is it a kindness, or an atrocity?
Kindness - it prevents future suffering.
50%
Atrocity - it's a slippery slope.
25%
Other - explain.
25%
Total Votes: 20

   17 comments

 Posted by Eden @ 10/08/2007 02:06 PM PDT
I'm on the "slippery slope" side but I think "atrocity" is a bit harsh so I voted "other." I don't like the precedent and removing a uterus so a woman doesn't have to "suffer" menstruation? I could see if there were cancer or something else but I think the excuse is weak. Part of me thinks this is more about forced sterilization than about not having a period.
 Posted by raejane @ 10/08/2007 02:08 PM PDT
Well, this is a toughie.
The girl is probably going to be unable to take care of herself during that time.
That means mom or nurse has to.
Look, I don't even like taking care of my self during my time, let alone someone else.
On the surface this sounds like a horrible idea... but I think in the long run, it helps everyone.
 Posted by Joe the Troll @ 10/08/2007 02:17 PM PDT
I see what you mean about "atrocity", Eden, buit "Not-niceness" just seemed wishy-washy, and unnecessarily alliterative. :-)
 Posted by Miz UV @ 10/08/2007 03:36 PM PDT
Once again, I am "other." Okay, let's see. I don't on principle necessarily disagree with the idea of non-lifesaving surgery upon a severly disabled person to make it easier to care for him/her, if the disabled person will benefit directly from that (e.g., a reduction in pain, etc.). But this seems extreme. Why not give her an ablation if she suffers from heavy and/or very crampy periods? That's what I had, and everything's great now. Even if RaeJane had to take care of me, she'd agree. :)

I don't think future possible potential babies should be AT ALL the issue in this case, but what will cause the least suffering with the most gain right now. A hysterectomy is a serious operation and can have complications, plus weeks of painful recovery time. I don't understand why that's the only option on the table here.
 Posted by Lucyp @ 10/08/2007 04:42 PM PDT
Like Eden, i think there is more than a whiff of sterilising the girl about this story than improving her quality of her life. I voted for the slippery slope because i feel very uncomfortable about operating on people just because they are disabled and that smacks of eugenics.
 Posted by Joe the Troll @ 10/08/2007 05:23 PM PDT
Just for clarification purposes, cerebral palsy is not genetic, so sterilizing children with it would do nothing to prevent future occurances. It is caused by damage to a developing brain either in the womb, during birth, or soon after and can be caused by infection, malnutrition, or physical trauma. At least, that's what the highly trained team of medical experts at Wikipedia say.

Therefore, if a person with cerebral palsy gives birth the baby does not have a higher chance of having it, provided that she is getting proper care. Of course, it's pretty obvious that if a woman so disabled gets pregnant, someone is taking advantage of her, and she isn't getting that kind of care.

Then again, if she CAN'T get pregnant, there's one less way of knowing if she's being abused.

Yeah, I like this poll....... it's a twisty one.
 Posted by nat @ 10/09/2007 08:46 AM PDT
I, too, must go with "other." I do believe the mom is looking out for the best interest of her daughter, but why not allow the girl to experience the periods first and all the associated pains and then allow HER to decide whether or not she wants to endure that for another 30 - 40 years.

I don't particularly like the word "atrocity," since it seems quite harsh. If you've not walked in the shoes of someone who's had to care for a disabled person, it's really hard to label this as atrocity. If Hitler proposed it, it would be atrocity, but since it's the girl's mom, I'd take that into consideration.

When you have a child that fits outside the "norm" for childhood experiences (and I have one), you can't simply make rash judgements on the parents. Parents are working with legal, educational, health, and social systems, and it's bloody frustration all around.
 Posted by N1Tootsie @ 10/09/2007 09:21 AM PDT
I am not the parent of a special needs child. I am a co-director of a group of volunteers that have taken over the challanger division of some soap box derby racing. We build dual control cars and run races for special needs children. I have had intimitate conversations with some of the parents and try to understand some of the day-to-day challenges they hurdle. We have had racers that are very limited in their ability to communicate their needs. If a child is in pain, it shows in VERY individual ways. Also many of the children are not capable of understanding normal body functions. The sight of blood and the pain of menstration can be a very anxiety filled trauma. (And yes trauma is the right word here) If this child is not capable of communication, she will not understand why she is in pain, she will not be able to express the amount of pain and she will begin to build huge amounts of anxiety anticipating the pain which she does not know how to stop or why it starts. I think this child's parent is the best person to make this decision. If the parents have the support of the childs doctors, let them keep their child free from pain and anxiety.
 Posted by N1Tootsie @ 10/09/2007 09:23 AM PDT
Some times we are more humane to our animals than we are to our loved ones.
 Posted by Joe the Troll @ 10/09/2007 10:44 AM PDT
"Some times we are more humane to our animals than we are to our loved ones. "

How very, very true.

I think everyone knows what I mean in the second choice. Is the word that I used really the main issue here, folks?
 Posted by N1Tootsie @ 10/09/2007 11:34 AM PDT
No Joe, Atrocity is the right word. There are some who feel sterilization of any kind is an atrocity which leads to a slippery slope that devalues all life.
 Posted by Jefe @ 10/09/2007 02:27 PM PDT
I gotta go with "Mom knows best" on this one.
 Posted by nat @ 10/09/2007 03:19 PM PDT
No, the word is not the main issue, but it's tough for me to call what this mom proposes to do an atrocity. I'm not sure it's a kindness, per se, either, unless she is being totally selfless in the decision.
 Posted by Emma @ 10/10/2007 01:34 PM PDT
I voted other because I'm on the fence. I didn't see anything in the article I read about the daughter having dysmenorrhea or anything of that nature. It seems to me like a convenience thing. And while I don't disagree that it would be nice to be able to do something for the girl to make a bodily function she may not completely understand less of a burden, I think there are a couple of alternatives that could be attempted first before the option of major invasive surgery, with all its risks and recovery time, is performed.
 Posted by DangerDoll @ 10/10/2007 03:23 PM PDT
I've read elsewhere that the child is *severely* disabled, unable to understand bodily functions, walk, or even communicate at all. Exactly how, then, will she be able to express the fact that she's in pain or frightened? And since there's no chance of the girl ever reproducing or even having sex, it seems to me any argument about her reproductive freedom is moot. Since the mother is responsible for her care, and has indeed devoted her own life to it, she should be allowed to make this decision in conjunction with her daughter's doctors. I highly doubt it's one she's making for her own convenience. In fact, I'd venture to say someone should ask her when the last time she made a decision for her own convenience even was...she probably can't remember.
 Posted by nat @ 10/10/2007 07:09 PM PDT
I had not read that the girl was inable to communicate, so I see your point, Danger Doll.

I feel for the family. And you're right about the mom probably not being able to remember making a decision for her own convenience. So right.
 Posted by O' Tim @ 10/12/2007 05:31 PM PDT
What Jefe & DD said - kindness.
 
 
Overall, it seems that this move was considered a kindness by ten respondents, with the other ten opinions being a split. Some of the "Others" kind of made allowances, however, so it seems to be considered an okay thing overall. I think we can all agree that it's a shame people are faced with such choices in the first place.
 
The new poll is a bit more personal, as it involves something that happened to me the other day. It's over in the sidebar!!

Posted at 12:51 pm by Joe_the_Troll
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Monday, October 15, 2007
Trolling the Underground: Clapton



It was the summer of '85. I was just freshly dropped out of college without a frigging clue as to what I was going to do next. I was nineteen and spending the summer the way I would have anyway - hanging out with my friends.

I remember getting a call from Hillbilly Tim (this was, of course, in his pre-hillbilly days). This was July 5th, and we were planning on seeing Eric Clapton the next night. At the time, Poplar Creek Music Theater was still active, and we lived quite close, which was the best of both worlds. We were out in the country, but this venue was big enough, close enough to Chicago, and on a major tollway, so it attracted major acts.

Hillbilly Tim said "Hey, are you sure that the Clapton show is tomorrow?" I told him I was. He said "He must be doing two shows, then, because I just heard them say on the radio that it's tonight." Well, as sure as I was about the night, I was even more sure that there was just one show, so our plans changed. Instead of a day, we had about three hours to showtime.





Here's where memory fails. I know that with our original plans, transportation was not an issue. With this new schedule, it was definitely a problem. We ended up offering my brother a ticket if he drove, which was fine except he needed a babysitter. Overhearing that, Tim's sister - the lifesaver - volunteered. She didn't even ask to be paid. Some kids just love kids, I guess.

That established, my brother had to drive from Woodstock to Huntley, about 20 minutes, pick me up, proceed to Hampshire to swap my nephew for Tim, then get to the show. Not difficult normally, except for the fact that the only time my brother ever moved fast was when the cops were chasing him, and he was extra laid back due to an accident a few years prior involving both kneecaps and an extremely blunt trauma.

We stopped in Dundee at Wendy's because he hadn't eaten and he wanted one of their potatos (which were a new thing at the time). They didn't give him a fork to eat it with, although I didn't know how he was going to eat it while driving, anyway. He did, though. I'll never forget him trying to stuff that potato in his face, cheeze oozing everywhere, while shifting and steering. Ol' Wobbly did it, though. We stopped at TicketTron and proceeded on.

We got there just in time to grab a patch of grass on the lawn that butted up to the wall that lined the back of the theatre. In fact, we got there in time to see the entire opening act, which wasn't really necessary as it was Graham Parker and the Shot and they sucked. There I leaned for the duration of the show. That was probably the furthest back I have ever been and still considered myself to be in the audience.

It wasn't bad, though. Poplar Creek never really was. While I wasn't exactly seeing Clapton in detail, I could hear just fine, and that was the important thing. A pox upon Sears for buying and closing it.



Well, naturally, I found a recording of it eventually - a sweet soundboard recording that compensates my prior distance with an onstage ear. A very nice thing not only because it's a memento, but also because it was a good show that was fading fast from memory. I remembered him doing Motherless Children, Tangled in Love, and the "obvious" tunes, but didn't remember the specifics of the show. I didn't remember that the bass was played by the talented Donald "Duck" Dunn, whom I've also seen live playing for Neil Young and in the movies supporting the Blues Brothers. I didn't remember the song sung by one of the background singers, Shawn Murphy, nor did I know that ten years later she'd be taking over as lead vocalist for one of my favorite bands, Little Feat.

It will probably surprise you not a bit that upon careful review, it's the blues tunes that are I find most worthy of sharing. There are times when Clapton can really rock out (in fact, The Core is my favorite by far) but on this night, these were the best tunes, The first comes fourth in the show - almost a quarter into it - when Eric seems to be getting good and warmed up. It's called Same Old Blues.

The next comes at the three quarter mark. He's let each of the background singers do a tune, and everyone in the band has shown off a little. He's played a few crowd-pleasers. Now we can just kick back against our walls and listen to Clapton cut loose a little. This one is called Double Trouble.

When I found this, I immediately made copies for Tim and my brother. Tim's I just sent along in the mail. To my brother I mailed a postcard that said "Do you remember what you were doing on July 5, 1985? I do." Then I strung him along for a couple weeks until it arrived in his mailbox. It drove him nuts. Payback for a few "Hertz Donuts."

Next: Something else.





Jeff Beck's dog, perhaps?

Posted at 09:03 pm by Joe_the_Troll
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Thursday, October 11, 2007
American Asshole : September




That's pretty much what I thought with each and every one of these:



Bill O'Reilly: If someone had shouted "Motherfucker", they'd have been looking at you, not the waitress.

Senator Larry Craig: Just not wanted anywhere.

O.J. Simpson: I know you know how to hire a lawyer. (1)

Sgt. James Kuehnlein: I have to wonder if there really is as much crime in America as we think. (watch the video to see what I mean) (2)

Gen. David Petraeus: Gosh, Wally, you wouldn't give me the business, would you?

Sgt. Tom Lovejoy: Why is it so easy to find cops for this thing each month?

Scott D. Clark: I don't even know what to say about this asshole. (1)

U.S. Attorney Donald Washington: Tell me another. (1)

Lucien Hoffman of Bend, Or. Nice to see a man with clear priorities. (3)


 As always, one vote per in the comments. Anonymous votes are NOT counted!

Winner goes on to the American Asshole Yearly Pageant.

If you see someone in the news you think is just a plain, simple asshole, feel free to send me a link! I'll entertain all nominations, but retain the right of final say.










Posted at 08:55 pm by Joe_the_Troll
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Wednesday, October 10, 2007
Lifehouse



Monday, October 08, 2007
You get a hysterectomy and I'll get a poll, honey.

Well, the last poll has died off, most definitively. All respondents were underwhelmed with sympathy for people who jumped right on the iPhone bandwagon so that they could have the bragging rights, only to be dismayed when the price was drastically cut a few months later, making them appear to be the schlubs that they are.

Now, normally the comments go bye-bye when I change polls, but starting this time around I will post them in a follow-up post so that they are preserved for posterity. Why wasn't I doing this before, you ask? Because I didn't think of it and you didn't suggest it, that's why. Here they are.

 Posted by raejane @ 10/04/2007 11:06 AM PDT
My motto is "never pay full price for anything"
ANYTHING... I mean, every thing goes down in price so why not just wait awhile...
 Posted by Joe the Troll @ 10/04/2007 11:15 AM PDT
I tend to agree. Why did people jump on it right away? Because they couldn't live without it's functions? Doubtful. People jump on these things to be the first on their block to have it, and part of being first is saying to the world "I can afford to ge this right away and not wait for the discounted price."
 Posted by nat @ 10/04/2007 01:39 PM PDT
Early adopters are just impatient. Let them pay for it!
 Posted by Miz UV @ 10/05/2007 10:09 PM PDT
I don't think they should get a refund because they're idiots, but I think it's a good PR idea to give them one in order to keep them as future (idiot) customers. And I shouldn't call them idiots -- if they have the money to throw away, good for them!
 Posted by Joe the Troll @ 10/07/2007 08:35 AM PDT
It is a good business move to cave a little, so I don't blame them. But if they have the money to throw away as you say, they shouldn't be whining now, and if they DON'T have the money to throw away, shame on them for having to be the first on the block to have the damn thing.

 

Anyway, it's time to reset the poll. This week's is a little more serious. The news item it refers to is here, and the poll is in the sidebar.

Speak out!!!

 

Posted at 12:57 pm by Joe_the_Troll
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