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Wednesday, December 12, 2007
More Fucking Harrassment.
Last night, I received this e-mail. Hey Joe,
Could you please remove all personal information
you've posted of others from your entries?
It would also help if you didn't do this in the
future.
Sorry for the request. We've got rules and
such.
We'll be forced to disable your blog if this is not
done in 24 hours.
Well, NOW we know why Mark REALLY took that post about me down. That "I'm protecting other people named Mark Firestone" bit was obviously too stupid to believe unless you're one of his giggle-toys. He was just preparing to act on warm, loving Earth-mother PJ's advice that he try to have my blog shut down for the insult of playing his own game better than he did.
I mean, HE PUT HIS OWN NUMBER ON THE WEB, WHERE IT STILL IS. It takes a special brand of gullibility to think that I endangered him with information that he himself had already posted. He simply can't stand the fact that you all know he was stupid enough to do it. Now you know what an underhanded, phony little whiner he is - for the umpteenth time.
It was on December 1st that Jefe wrote a comment to the effect that if I stop going to Mark's blog, Mark will leave me alone. I informed him that he was incorrect, because that had been my first ploy, and the attacks just kept coming. I did offer to prove it to him, though, so I haven't gone there since. It lasted 10 days. A mere 10 days before he's trying to have me shut down. And I've left him and his blog completely alone. Don't even try to tell me that he's being "reactive."
So be careful when you deal with him, if you are unfortunate enough to do so. If he sees you as a threat - and he obviously feels threatened by me - he'll concoct an excuse to try and get you shut down. This is how he "handles disagreement." This is how he handles speech he doesn't agree with. This is why he's a hypocrite and a liar every time he gets on his fucking pedestal and waves the flag - a flag that stands for freedom, strength, and bravery. Because when it comes right down to it, he does not want any free speech except that with which he agrees, and is coward enough to slink around behind one's back to get one removed from the internet.
You know, Mark, when you threatened me online, I didn't go to the authorities. But then again, I figured you'd be too much of a pussy to ever actually try anything. But the point is, I didn't go "running to mommy." Perhaps I should. I wouldn't doubt that your threat broke a law or two. Shall we find out? After all, you didn't do that at YOUR blog, where you could delete it and pretend it didn't happen. Your threat is still there in Lucy's comments.
Not enough stupidity? Okay..... how about this comment that showed up today?
I'm going to say this as a lawyer, you need to take
this post down lest you find yourself in the midst of a libel action.
Unlike Mark's decision to post your IP address (which contains no real
indentifiable information), this is actionable.
And all of you who back this aren't any better yourselves.
Well, Folly - (or should I call you "Carol", or "Bar Slut?") you're just showing, once again, that "lawyer" does not equal "smart." First, you've already told us that you aren't a trial lawyer, so let us not pretend. Secondly, "libel" requires that you prove:
- That I published something about Mark that is untrue. Mark is the one who's been publishing lies, over and over and over. So that should be fun.
- That the info I published has caused Mark to suffer a loss. The only loss Mark has suffered is the loss of intelligent friends who don't like the way he acts. Oh, and any semblance of manhood, but I didn't take that away from him. He never had it in the first place.
So, no, Carol, I don't think you're going to sue me for libel. Thirdly, if you had bothered to read before you posted, you would have seen that the phone number had already been replaced by text and the links were disabled. I did that yesterday when your pussy boyfriend had Blogdrive send me a threat. I didn't mind. The existence of the threat shows, once and for all, that Mark KNOWS deep inside his little heart of hearts that he is nowhere near being smart enough or man enough to deal with me by himself. Oh, and you seem to think I'm scared of legal action on the basis that I endangered Mark. What a laugh. No judge is going to accept that I endangered Mark by linking to info that Mark himself posted. Only regular readers of his blog are stupid enough to buy that. Like you. I'll give you credit for one thing, though - you didn't make up some stupid fucking pseudonym like "Jesus of NM" and use a proxy server. Small credit, to be sure, but deserved. So, what advice do people have for me now? I've tried leaving him be, and he can't let it rest. He keeps dredging up old shit, posting with glee about my misfortunes, mocking my mother's death. I've tried sticking to the actual topic at other people's blogs, and you know he can't do that. Once a fact gets thrown in his face, he's back to his own blog throwing his poop like the simian intellect he embodies, making up anything he can come up with to discredit me so no one will notice that he cannot counter my argument itself. Fighting back only makes him go runnning to your blog provider to get you shut down. Is there anybody - anybody besides Mark's mouthpieces, that is - who is going to continue telling me that I am in some way provoking this? Is there any doubt that it is Mark and his Witches of Eastwick that have the obsession? I was - more than once- accused of organizing efforts to make everyone hate Mark. None of you have seen these efforts. Can anyone doubt, though, that Mark has done the exact thing to me that he, Gekko, and PJ have all accused me of doing to him? Certainly JennyJinx and Blogfest Tim, who both recieved "watch out for Joe" e-mails, can't. And Mark - just for curiosity's sake - have you EVER in your life handled a problem on your own, instead of running to a woman or an authority figure to handle it for you? You never face me head-on. You run to your blog, where you can alter comments, to take swipes at me but normally have someone else come here to bash me. Don't you get tired of hiding behind skirts? Haven't you ever wanted to stand up for yourself like a man, instead of acting like a little boy? By the way - that site you put up with your phone number? Might want to take it down. That is, if having that number on the web REALLY endangers you. If it DOESN'T, then what is this all about? If you leave that number up, you admit that this is not about the danger of having personal info on the net.You are admitting, by leaving that page up, that this is just ANOTHER in a long list of ways to get even with me for not liking you. Poor baby.
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Tuesday, December 11, 2007
Two Rules!1 - For each question, type the answer into Google search.2 - Post a picture from the first results page (I used the "image search".)
1. Age at next birthday  2. A place I'd like to travel  3. My favorite place  4. My favorite object  5. My favorite food  6. My favorite animal  7. My favorite color  8.Town where I was born I was surprised to see this come up on the "Elgin, Il." search. This is the house on the corner of Liberty & Chicago, one of the grandest in this old blue collar town. I used to know the couple that lived in it, but we didn't really hit it off as friends.
9.Town where I live  10. Name of a past pet  11. First name of a past love Mine was a redhead, though.
12.Best friend's nickname I have no idea why this came up in the search, since I wasn't looking for "Hulk", "Leader," or "Comic Book Guy." It was the most interesting one to come up, however.
13. My screen name  14. My first name  15. My middle name  16. My last name  17. Bad habit of mine  18. My first job  19. My grandmother's name  20. My college major  Now, some of you may be thinking that I cheated on at least two of these, not actually Googling the pictures, but you're wrong!! I only cheated on one. As you know, I don't normally tag people for memes, preferring to let people choose for themselves what they'll blog about. So I'll only tag O'Tim.
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Friday, December 07, 2007
O.K., maybe I'm dumb, but I have to ask.
What the hell IS that thing?????????
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Thursday, December 06, 2007
Trolling the Studio : Traffic's "Low Spark" Sessions
 I can still remember the first time I heard The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys. I was in high school, and it must have been my senior year because I had just smoked a bowl in the basement. When I came upstairs and went to my room, my buzz was just starting to kick in, and I flipped on the radio. That song was playing, and that hypnotic, steady bass line dragged my ass right down to the floor. I sat there like Buddha - cross legged, eyes closed, and letting every beautiful note wash over and through me. I've been a Traffic fan since. I still don't know what the song is about, but here's a boatload of theories to start with.While Traffic was a band with a distinguished career and many great albums, Low Spark just seems to stand out. The entire thing is great from start to finish, and most of it was available to FM listeners of the day. I remember at least four of the LP's six songs getting regular play - a ratio even today's most popular releases do not enjoy anymore. It was the band's most successful album in the U.S. Not bad for a band everyone had given up for dead many years before. I was fortunate to see the core of Steve Winwood and Jim Capaldi (and I'm not sure who else, certainly not Chris Wood, who was long dead, or Dave Mason, who was in Fleetwood Mac that year) reunite as Traffic in 1994, when they toured as the opener for the Grateful Dead. While I frequently blew off the opening acts in favor of the parking lot scene, I made sure I was in to see Traffic both nights. I'm glad I did - both sets were fantastic (despite the poor live performances I've heard on some older boots) , and as of Capaldi's passing will never happen again. Unfortunately this was post Brent GD, therefore no big Dear Mr. Fantasy jam, which sounds just awesome in my imagination.  Aside from Winwood (guitar, keys, vocals), Capaldi (percussion, vocals) and Wood (sax, flute) the band also consisted at this point of Rick Grech (bass, violin), Reebop Kwaku Baah (percussion) and Jim Gordon (drums) who is the unfortunate lunatic I referred to in yesterday's final clue. The music I'm sharing today comes from the Low Spark sessions at the Olympic Studios in London in 1971. I'm sure there is plenty more - this is just one disc and doesn't cover all the songs on the album. It does, however, include three "unknown jams" and demos for a couple Capaldi tunes that Traffic never did (he may have done them solo, I don't know.) While I wish I could post a nifty version of Low Spark of High Heeled Boys, I can't. The version here has some different percussion, and the sax solo doesn't sound exactly the same, but the piano solo does, as do the vocals. Overall, it's not that different from what we know. I can share a completely different arrangement of the album's single, though. Rock & Roll Stew has long been one of my favorite Traffic tunes, and this alternate arrangement is cool as hell. It's a little simpler and less layered than the release, and feels a little more like a straightforward rock song. Capaldi, Reebop Kwaku Baah, WinwoodThe next is one of the unknown jams, all of which are cool. This is the third and longest, and it features the Muscle Shoals Horns. It's called Unknown Jam #3 w/Muscle Shoals Horns. I swear, I have no idea where they come up with these titles. What do you think of it?  At the last minute, I've decided to include a third cut, simply because it it so unlike anything Traffic ever actually did. In fact, it sounds more like something Arlo Guthrie would do. It one of the Capaldi demos, and is a solo acoustic, very folksy sounding tune. It's called Easter Weekend demo #2. According to Google, this bootleg is the only way to hear this song, because no Capaldi albums came up in the search. Oh well. I do have to say that I enjoy the novelty of an acoustic guitar demo from a drummer!
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Wednesday, December 05, 2007
Musically Speaking.......
Have you seen what O'Tim & Jefe are up to? You should!
Are you in the Christmas spirit? Nat is! She's not doing the same old same old, though. She's posting a different Christmas song every day, and so far there has only been ONE that I've heard before. If you think you're ready for some new tunes this season, Nat's is the place to be!
And if that isn't enough to soothe your savage breast, return here tomorrow for a new Trolling the Studio, where I'll explore one of the most popular albums of the 70s. Any guesses?
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Saturday, December 01, 2007
American Asshole: November
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Friday, November 30, 2007
Here's the results of the last poll: Entry: Gallows Poll 8 comments  | Posted by Miz UV @ 10/30/2007 11:36 AM PDT |  | | It sounds like an angry impulse that went all wrong. The original charges were harsh enough, so I say just keep those. I don't think the kid should go unpunished. |
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 While some felt it was murder and should be treated as such, they didn't really comment. I thought Cody's comment was spot on - we have set these benchmarks of maturity - 18 for war, 21 for beer - yet we will grant a child adult status for the purpose of punishment. I won't worry too much about these kids, though. Remember this one? He'll be out when he's twenty one, based on evidence of abuse that came pretty much just from him. Certainly the teenage girl deserved better, if not the mom and dad. Plainly put, I saw no reason, in that case, why a juvenile sentence should not extend past the age of 21, but that's the way it is. The white ones usually tend to get a break, it seems. And so, thanks to Cody Bones, we have the topic for another poll. Thanks, Cody!
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Thursday, November 29, 2007
Mark F. is really a cocksucker. (Updated) (and now edited to assuage the Whiner's bruised little feelings)
As many of you know, Mark and I have not always gotten along. In fact, we came out of the gate fighting as soon as we met. Despite that, we started getting along when his dog passed on. Having recently put a beloved cat to sleep, I wrote him a consolatory e-mail. We became friends after that, but as you all know, it didn't last. Now, in return, when my dog was put to sleep, I heard nothing from him. When my MOTHER died, he actually MOCKED her on his blog. He took it down later - far be it from a coward like him to actually stand behind his cruelty. He knows, as we all do, that mocking someone's dead mother is about as low as a piece of human shit can be. But several people saw it including Paula and DangerDoll. Many of you are aware that I recently lost my job. The company was bought out by Xerox, and having nothing to do, the President who had founded the company moved on to start another one. After that, the "restructuring" began. MY position, along with several others, was eliminated. A couple managers got it, too. I have been granted a referral from the company, and the former President is one of my references. If I were fired for cause, I would not get unemployment, but I do. There has been no advertisement for my position, because it was the position itself that was eliminated, along with the manager's. There was no enmity against me. So imagine how I feel when I see this posted at Mark's. Buy A Clue With That Severance Pay Gee, maybe you got canned for fucking off on blogs all day when you were supposed to be working. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Merry Christmas! Domain Name comcast.net ? (Network) IP Address 68.35.161.# (Comcast Cable) Visitor's Time Nov 28 2007 9:47:04 am (BTW, stupid, people who are fired for cause don't generally get severance pay.)
First off, yes, I looked at his blog. I do that because he keeps writing about me. He has this obsession, you see. If you don't like it, Mark, why not be like your cowardly lawyer friend and go private? IT'S A PUBLIC BLOG YOU ARE POSTING ON, YOU STUPID FUCK. EVERYONE HAS A LEGAL RIGHT TO LOOK AT IT. YOU'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE I DON'T ALLOW YOU TO LIE ABOUT ME BEHIND MY BACK.
Beside this, it shows what I've been saying all along- that Mark is a PHONY. How many times has he gone on about shadenfreude? He loves to tell everyone that he is above taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others. But what about the above? WHAT ABOUT MOCKING MY MOTHER'S DEATH? What about any actor he doesn't like who has a bad time. He does it constantly. He thinks that just SAYING he has a quality makes it so. It doesn't. It just shows what a liar and a phony he is. Besides, who thinks this guy has ANY information about my work? Any whatsoever? Just because he can make something up, he thinks he can make others think it's true. That's called a LIAR. Has everyone had enough of this cocksucker yet? I have. Yet still some will still want to associate with him, because it "isn't your problem." If that is how you feel, please make sure that I am no longer your problem as well. I'm sorry, I've had enough. There are people who tell me not to react, but those people aren't a target for lies and abuse every few months. If you think that Mark has a greater right to throw stones than I have to defend myself, then let's just leave each other be. If you go here, you can see the site he's posted for his work. See the phone number? It's {Mark posted this number himself, but since he's a sniveling little cocksucker he whined to Blogdrive about me having it and made them threaten me to take it down. I wonder if they blew his nose and dired his little pussy tears, too}. That's the number to call if you ever want to tell him what you think of cowardly, dishonest phonies that shit all over Blogovia and make things less fun for all of us. Now go to the White pages reverse lookup page. Drop that number in. What do you get? You get this.Or you can Google the words " Mark F. (edited due to whining) carpenter" and look at the last entry on page one. You see, Mark has frequently lied, as have at least two of his female friends, about how I posted his address and put him in danger, however, that is false for two reasons. First, being publicly listed and posting a phone number as he did, he himself made the information public. Do you see any information here that it would take a detective to find? No, anyone smarter than Mark - which includes my cats- can find this info that HE has provided. Second, if his family is in danger, it isn't because of me. It's because he traipses from blog to blog being a petty, dishonest asshole. People don't dislike him because he is always so right about everything, and OH, SO courageous in calling it like it is. People dislike him because he is rude, obnoxious, and abusive. Oh, and I'm not removing this publicly available information this time, Mark. FUCK YOU. If you don't want to be endangered, it's time to stop being such a prick and start treating people with the respect you want for yourself. In other words, stop deserving it. Try not being a hypocrite for a change. The fact is, you're jealous. You're jealous because, despite how much you want everyone to hate me, you can't do it. You're mad because when you try, you only lose more friends yourself. You're jealous because everyone knows that on your BEST day you cannot out-debate me on my WORST day. I mean, look at Cody's blog. You couldn't answer my last comment from a week ago, could you? You aren't SMART enough. You're mad because I have logic and facts on my side when all you have is neo-con lies and assumptions that you want everyone to see as facts. And you're mad because your own actions have shown people what a petty, pathetic, cowardly, lying little phony you are. Don't like my saying that? Then come here and shove these words down my throat like you said you would six months ago, you loudmouth pussy. You have my address, right? Oh, that's right - you were only willing to threaten, not act, unless I came to YOU.
How typical.
Update: Hey, look! Dingleberry posted an update. It says this:
UPDATE: Visitor's Time Nov 29 2007 7:26:34 am I guess someone's learning to be a pest on his own time now...Amazing what happens when your boss puts his foot up your ass in the form of a pink slip. Better luck in that next Habitrail habitat you manage to slither into. You might leave the pot at home, too... Once again, he claims information he could not have, proving he made it up. Never mind that the managers I answered to either retired before the lay-off or were laid off with me. And that remark about pot? Well, that's another thing Mark is jealous about. He had a long-running love affair with drugs and alcohol once, but found that he wasn't able to handle them.He must hate it when he meets someone who can smoke pot, drink, and still be at work everyday, along with going to college part time and getting a 3.94 GPA. That kind of self-control must just burn him up.
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007
I saw this in the news today. Like the case of the woman in Saudi Arabia, this is sure to have lots of Americans wringing their hands in rightful indignation. What's darkly funny, however, is that a lot of people who will condemn this vocally (and don't get me wrong, I DO condemn it) are folks that want to see America made a "Christian nation", as they will tell you it started as, officially. Many more are supporters of the Iraq war, which is also laughable. They will tell you that this is why Islam is a "gutter religion." I say it is exactly why NO religion should be in any government whatsoever. After all, does anyone with any objectivity in the matter actually believe that if the separation of church and state were removed, that this could not happen here?
Look at the things that HAVE happened here. Slavery. Women as second class citizens. Jim Crow. The Japanese-American prison camps. The weakening of the Bill of Rights. The loss of habeus corpus, the very cornerstone of liberty. Terrorist bombings on American soil, mostly by Americans, and many by Christians. The fact is, anything, be it good or evil, can happen here. There is no such thing as "It can't happen here." People who say that are not just wrong - they are lying, and they know it. I have no doubt whatsoever that if this becomes an official "Christian nation", we'll see similar things happen here. Perhaps not flogging, but what religious country is NOT going to outlaw disrespect for their God? Do we think that the same people who get upset every year because December is not strictly about Christmas will not stick you in jail for a week or so for saying "Happy Holidays" instead of Merry Christmas? Is it so unlikely that church attendence would become mandatory? I mean, it must be what these people want. There are already laws against Biblical wrongs such as murder, theft, and perjury - those things that harm others. What else would the religious right want in tearing down this wall, if not mandated respect for their religion, and all Commandments codified into law? What other point could there possibly be to this excercise? What else do they have to gain by it? And Iraq now has a more Sharia-based government than it had four years ago, thanks to us. Sure, we saved them from Sadaam, only to turn them over to someone worse - themselves. Many of the people who claim that this is exactly what we're fighting against will miss the fact that this is exactly what we've helped to spread. So while I think that the sentence - hell, the law itself - is a travesty, I must argue against those that will see this as an example of Christianity's superiority over Islam. People are people, and religious people are religious people. If we had no separation between our government and religion, we'd have the same type of laws here. To put it succinctly, "There but by the grace of the Founding Fathers go we." I really wish more people could appreciate that. You can't run a country By a book of religion Not by a heap Or a lump or a smidgeon Of foolish rules Of ancient date Designed to make You all feel great While you fold, spindle And mutilate Those unbelievers From a neighboring stateFrank Zappa
Update: The stupidity begins at CNN.com. Go here and scroll down, looking at the right side of the screen. See the "Quick Poll"? Can anyone tell me the point of taking a poll in a non-Muslim country about what constitutes blasphemy in a Muslim country? OF COURSE very few people will see it that way HERE, you morons! The fact is they are not obligated to care what we think about it, as we don't care what other countries think of our laws. In fact, we expect people from other countries to know and obey our laws when they are here, do we not? We don't make exceptions for laws that these people consider ridiculous. When an American was to be caned in Singapore for graffiti about 15 years ago, most Americans had no problem with it. Go there and break their laws, you deserve the punishment, they said. Many said that America should be more like Singapore. Corporal punishment gets results, they said. Well, how many of those same people will have that same attitude about THIS law? Very few, I'd wager. After all, the Singapore thing was about damage to property. This is only about disrespecting someone else's God on their own turf.
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Thursday, November 22, 2007
Trolling the Underground : Alice's Restaurant.
 I was thinking about this song today, as I do every Thanksgiving. If you don't know why that is, you need professional help - the help of a professional CD retailer, that is. Alice's Restaurant is both a folk and a protest classic, and in many homes a Thanksgiving tradition. The song is based on a true event in Arlo's life, and on real people and places as well. There was an Alice, she did live with her husband in an old church, and she did have a restaurant, although it wasn't called "Alice's Restaurant." Eighteen year old Arlo and his friend WERE busted for illegal dumping on Thanksgiving, 1965. While Arlo exaggerated liberally, the tale has still endured for 40 years as a folk favorite and anti-war anthem. So I wasn't surprised to see a torrent available today that was entirely composed of underground versions of Alice's Restaurant. This torrent is a testimony to Arlo's uncanny ability to ramble on and on in the most entertaining manner, even when you can tell he really isn't rambling toward any particular destination. There were a total of four, ranging from 1966 to 1984, and there are two that I think you should hear this year. Don't worry - it won't be redundant. Not at all. This is the church in Mass. where Alice lived with her husband. Note the bell tower to the left .I've chosen these two versions because they not only sound great, being FM versions, but also because each one will be a new listening experience for you no matter how many times you've listened to the album. And I mean a new experience. The first comes from Gerde's Folk City in NYC (in fact, this might be a soundboard recording rather than an FM recording, I don't know) sometime in 1966. That puts it a year before the album was released, and it is very obvious that the song was still in the development stage. In fact, the elements that we would consider the main parts of the story are missing entirely. What the song consists of, mainly, is a far greater elaboration on another element that you will know from the album, and I think you'll be very surprised to hear what element it was that dominated the early version of the song. At a mere 13:33, it's about 5 minutes shorter than the studio version also. You can get it right here.The second is from The Bob Fass radio show in May of 1967, just three months after Arlo played a more faithful rendering of the song on the same show. This is entirely different from the first or the official version. First, this version has piano accompaniment, which changes the entire texture of the song. With just a guitar, it is a very folksy song, but the jangly piano in the background brings an aura of New Orleans honky-tonk that changes the face of the familiar tune completely. Not only that, but the story is entirely different.This is, in fact, sort of a sequel to the original story. It's called Alice's Restaurant Multi-Colored Rainbow Roach Affair, and is a bizarre story involving the restaurant, brightly colored insects, and cold war espionage. It's only three seconds longer than the 1966 version. It has to be heard to be believed. Hear it here.Of course, we know what Arlo was smoking when he came up with it, right? The other two versions I downloaded were much more faithful to the album, although one has plenty of improv in it and comes in a almost 25 minutes. Maybe I'll post that one next year. For now, what do those of you who know the song think of these two alternate takes? You have the floor. Arlo was John Travolta before being John Travolta was cool.
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